Originally by: Wrayeth

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Edited by: Wrayeth on 22/06/2005 19:38:52

Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri

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Hey Wrayeth, do you know what these counter mesures are?

- Webber (There is even 12KM webber isn't there?)
- Light to Medium Drones
- NoS
- ECM - Jammers
- Fitting for Combat


Frigs are far from "Godlike" we just have to many un-experienced pilots in the game who think because they fail. We all fail. Thanks for adding to the BS!

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You are aware that missiles will be doing next to no damage shortly, right?

Web? Still doesn't help when a battleship weapon can't hit a frig - and some frigs use 20km scramblers and stay out of web range, anyway.

Medium drones? Can't catch the little suckers. Light drones? May be able to catch an interceptor depending on how it's fitted out...but do almost no damage. I tested a pack of 8 warriors against an NPC inty and it took almost four minutes to kill it. Last time I tested against a PC inty was just to get into armor, and that took two minutes. Oh, and neither light nor medium drones are worth a damn against assault frigs - AFs can just tank the damage.

Nos? Not very helpful - once the missile changes hit TQ, missiles will hardly do any damage to frigs...and turrets still won't be able to hit at anything less than extreme range.

ECM? This is effective against a frig, but it still won't let your battleship actually kill it. (i.e. God-mode)

In all seriousness, it will take longer for a battleship to kill a frigate after the missile change than it will take a battleship to kill another battleship - and the frigate will have warped out long before it reaches the point where its about to die - sure, you can web it and scramble it, but even a webbed frig can get out of scramble range before your drones can kill it (only needs to get past 10km to get out of web range, then about three seconds and it's beyond 20km scramble range, too...at which point it can warp).

Again: Frig = God-Mode.

EDIT: Just a quick example: even that uber 90% webber that someone mentioned will only drop my Crow to 408.1m/s (max speed before the 90% reduction is 4081m/s) - and it only takes a few seconds to get out of web range at that speed.

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